Ratings in the Gallery

[Jones]

I was just wondering how everyone decides what rating score to give in the Gallery. Most scores seem to be 8 to 10 which is encouraging but not, perhaps, of enormous value!

And what's a 10? Is it "excellent for a beginner", "I'd have that on my wall", "Should be in a stock library", "Any pro would be pleased" or what?

[Shaun]

Good thread... maybe it would be a good idea to publish a scoring system which we all followed, to allow for the best feedback, because my 8/10 might be different to yours!)


This is the kind of system I work to... may seem a bit harsh but yeh -

10 ---- PERFECT! Great impact, composition & technicals excellent.
9 ------ GREAT SHOT! Great impact, possible minor flaws.
7/8 --- GOOD WORK. Good impact, composition & technicals.
6 ------ ABOVE AVERAGE. Some, but not all good qualities.
5 ------ AVERAGE. Mediocre or significant improvement possible.
4 ------ BELOW AVERAGE. Lacks appeal for certain reasons.
3 ----- NEEDS WORK. Major improvement required.
2 ------ VERY POOR. Attributes are not repairable.
1 ------ DELETE IT. Just delete it from your hard drive.

[munchycarrot]

1-3 :rofl:

Great thread, i wouldn't bother rating a pic with a 4 as i'd hate to offend someone so i'd just not bother but maybe we DO need to change that. I only ever rate & leave a comment at the same time or it's pretty unhelpful i s'pose

A scoring system is good but could be hard to implement :confuse:

[Shaun]

True... could be hard to implement... Maybe it shouldnt be possible to have a rating without a comment.

If I thought a photo deserved a low rating then I would give it, but thats just me. The vital thing would then be to leave a constructive comment and some helpful feedback :top:

[Marvin]

I like your list Shaun, perhaps we should all stick to it. That way people would know what they are being scored as. But yes, it is important to give constructive comments, especially if improvement is needed or expected.

[Jeni]

this is one of the reasons i dont score pictures. i will leave comments, but never have any idea on what score to give a picture.

[munchycarrot]

I do agree. If i were to get a low rating I'd want to know why & who from (so I could ban them) :rofl:

[badbadman]

It is all down to personal preference, one mans poor shot is anothers great shot.

The ratings list Shaun has posted makes sense but it will need members to have thick skins if they get consistent low ratings.

In the end we have three choices..

1. just carry on with people scoring as they see it.

2. implement the rating system on Shauns list

3. do away with the rating system altogether.


Maybe set up a poll?

[Jones]

Great list, Shaun, especially liked 1/10!

Looks workable too, though I agree specific comment is crucial.

A poll is probably a good idea.

[cindy]

To be honest I don't like ratings hence only give 7+ . I don't even like receiving a 7!!!

I much prefer comments as often they are more helpful. As for a rating system I think we all have our own means of rating something, and I would hate to be told how to rate something which is to me a personal response to a photo and may not fit into prescribed categories.

I would like to see comments which give constructive criticism for instance if something doesn't do it for you - explain why and offer alternatives. Don't just leave it there. Its nice getting one word positive comments but again it would be more helpful if you explained why something was super or stunning. I am also a culprit of leaving the one word comments but am happy to take more care in what and how I say something if there was not a rating system.

[Pipeman]

As for a rating system I think we all have our own means of rating something, and I would hate to be told how to rate something which is to me a personal response to a photo and may not fit into prescribed categories.
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I go along with this point of view as all judgements are subjective, but see no reason why criteria such as Shaun's shouldn't be used as a base. I see no use in linking the marks to the photographers ability - it's a 10 or it isn't.

I don't mark below 6 - we are here to encourage rather than slap down, and I would rather leave an image unmarked yet with a comment pointing to possible improvements.

Were I to be marked with a 2, then I think that I would be quite cross.:(

[cindy]

'Most scores seem to be 8 to 10 which is encouraging but not, perhaps, of enormous value'!
Going back to the post which started this thread. I have not seen any point below 7 so this means the voting system is somewhat meaningless as only a quarter of the rating system is used. And since many people seem reluctant to receive or award below this threshold it seems to me we might as well abandon the system.

[Pipeman]

I like the ability to award ratings to images I feel deserve them, it's another way of saying that an image appeals to me without posting a bland comment.

I know that if an image of mine gains a 7 or more, then it's OK, and I don't worry about the unrated shots.

If members were to rate widely at the bottom end it would cause distress to some members and what's the point in that? I did see one image with a 2, I think, and I felt quite sorry for the person who submitted it.

TOG247 is for fun so let's keep everyone happy!

[benjiblanco]

i go along with the... leave a comment or dont.. rate 7 if more than worthy of just a comment. Rate 8 if really good, 9 if it really stands out as great work, 10 for perfection.

[scottie]

I guess ratings will give one to try and do better the next time no matter how young or old we are
we are always eager to learn from our mistakes
I would like to see comments which give constructive criticism
I agree Cindy positive feed back is welcome good or bad

[roy boy]

I think you would be wrong to make a list, and then tick off the boxes i.e sharpness technical compidence, impact, and so forth.
I would hate to have to judge a pic in this manner.
Obviously we all know that visual impact differs from each person.
One thing that is omitted from this list and I think is the most important of all is “THE DIFFICULTY OF THE SHOT” I am sure that you would agree with me that today’s cameras are so advanced that the taking of any shot is virtually easy when it comes to exposure and contrast e.t.c. as I have said before any subject that is under the photographers control should be technically perfect in every way,
For me first in the list would come difficulty of the shot. For me that mean’s any pic that the photographer had no control over, or had just seconds to click the shutter at the crucial moment and captured that moment perfectly, to me that is photography at its best. An artist can paint a flower or paint a portrate or a scenic view, one thing he could never do is capture a true moment in time, like a good photographer can.

I REST MY CASE!!!!!!! :p

[Pipeman]

I agree entirely Roy.:top: